Transcript - APRIL Youth Conference Peer Panel who ran their breakouts yesterday how do you guys think it went okay i think i could have done better but i don't know we had some pretty deep conversations in my breakout session it was uh yeah i loved it yeah i loved it um yeah it was okay i was kind of tired so i just had one person and then i came to mel's it was so good i love deep conversations so something i actually i think had someone from mel's group coming to mine but it was a i had my questions they answered them all and they actually got more it was more informal at the end we were talking about different things and sometimes they'll return to questions and i would ask them some questions as well everyone seemed to love it awesome oh hey opal hey all righty we have um our attendees coming in um welcome everybody we'll be starting in just a minute or so um but thank you for coming uh we're excited for this youth panel um i see people introducing themselves in the chat so feel free to introduce yourself in the chat um excuse me afterwards feel also feel free to i use the discord to connect with people um and continue these sorts of conversations um that we've been having all week it's the last day which is sad but it's going to be a good one so i'm excited what coffee you drinking today mels today's coffee is a rebel from uh dutch brothers i don't think we actually have that down here in florida yeah i think it's a uh west side of the country thing um unless anybody on the uh east coast can tell me in the chat if they have dutch brothers over here wyoming never heard of that i want to use code never heard of that operator in here so um i'm trying to troubleshoot that with mary all right thank you melly so yeah we'll be waiting just a little bit just to get our cart set up and then we'll be on our way um i guess until that uh we're talking about coffee which is not the official subject of today i don't like i've heard on the east coast dunkin donuts is really big yeah and krispy kreme oh yeah oh yeah for sure i have never been to a dunkin donuts and i don't even know if we have one nearby we have one krispy kreme uh it's about 30 minutes 30 to 45 minutes away and then i think the closest one from that one is about five hours away geez mine's like 20 minutes away by car but we also have something in florida at least where i live called mama j i can't remember the name of it but it says something called boba tea oh yeah yeah and we i get something called the blue horizon which is tastes like a raspberry or blue raspberry snow cone with the passion fruit bursting bobas gosh i love boba oh i don't like the texture we're waiting for the capsules okay um this is melly again i'm sorry i just want to make sure that that the caption person is not somewhere on um if you are can you please um chat or or state that you're here masha that tiara is excellent thanks opal i like your shirt or dress or whatever you're wearing i can see the florals oh thank you i like this shirt too all right for those just jumping in um we will be starting momentarily we are just uh troubleshooting some issues with um our i forgot with our captioning isn't this the same issue we had yesterday as well i think so i think it's the joys of digital conferences and i think because we're on uh a different um zoom host than the rest of the conference that makes sense but we're all all out here doing our best i know i just made myself look presentable because i was still in pajamas like 30 minutes ago oh don't feel bad i literally had to get dressed within an hour after i woke up because i had another meeting before this i'm like okay and still take my service dog outside and everything i was like okay this is gonna be an interesting morning not gonna be able to eat but that's okay we keep um i guess a disability life hack for um those of us that struggle with like uh food and texture um my partner and i we keep uncrustables in the freezer at all times because it just makes it like so it's like okay that's protein that's carbs all right we're ready to go exactly i see in the chat from a fantasy i love uncrustables honestly like just sometimes eating food is so hard yes especially when you're tired and like had a long day and you don't want to cook and also like i think i have uh three things that i like so i'll forget to eat and then i'll get like sensory overload and i can't then i don't want to eat even more oh awesome we're in gallery view again sorry i i i don't know we can't see the asl and i i don't know how to fix it uh-oh and we still don't have cart so we're just waiting well you know it's always the uh i'm i'm liking looking through uh the chat on their responses um if anybody wants to add uh what their favorite um like sensory food is like those foods that like no matter what you can eat i can do uh i have uncrustables and then the uh cheesy roll up from taco bell and it's just a quesadilla and cheese but those two things i have never had that mouse buttons because i don't eat taco bell often yeah taco bell is cheap and when i was a vegetarian for a year it's like the only vegetarian restaurant and now that i'm not a vegetarian everywhere has like beyond meat and i'm so mad about it i know mashed potatoes mashed potatoes are my f yeah gosh anything italian in my mind yesterday i worked so much i forgot to eat lunch yup that's a mood we have in the chat um avocado and we have uh hot pockets um taco bell as well oh yeah taco bell is life yes um i think my food is either in just steak because steak always is something that calms me claudette i brought claudette up to a panelist but i don't have that can you assign her please she's a sign perfect and also just a good bacon pizza i am tragically allergic to bacon okay that is true magic that is horrible and it looks like we have our captioning now uh are are people able to see the asl interpreter as well if you can just put something in the chat please or something from fantasy we have no i can see here i can see her as well but that's all gallery view okay it looks like it just got changed to gallery view and i just saw a caption option show up yay okay you're on mouse all righty so first of all everybody thank you so much for your patience um as you've heard said it is not a zoom conference without some technical difficulties but we made it through um thank you so much for coming to this session today um i'm mels i use they them pronouns and i am a april board member one of the youth seats um and thank you for joining our youth advocacy panel um just a few housekeeping items before we get started if you uh you should all have a menu bar you may need to move your mouse to see it it is either at the bottom or top of your screen depending on which uh what devices that you're using um we have please use the uh as as we've already been using please use the chat for um just pretty much chatting and if you have any um questions please use the q a i will be um doing my best to keep track of the chat but questions will always end up getting lost in there because we're a chatty bunch um and this will be based off of a lot of audience participation um and for questions for our panelists um and then for um those of you who are on the phone today we ask that you press star 9 on your keypad to raise your hand and then we will unmute you remember if you do join the conversation please keep all background noise down as much as possible for those on our panel if there's background noise where you are at please mute yourself when you are not talking um for sign language interpreting you can find the interpreter on the main screen if you do not see the interpreter make sure that you are in gallery view and that will allow you to see more than one person at a time um and yeah so let's give a short introduction of this um topic so what we're going to be doing today is working on a like we have uh four youth panelists that have all been doing advocacy in different ways across the country they're gonna talk a little bit about their local work and then um each is gonna take about um five or so minutes to uh talk about what they've been doing what work they um have done what they want to do and then we're going to be opening it up for um questions and please post those questions in the q a and this is really the time to be like how can i get involved or where did you start or um i think one of the questions is masha why do you got a tr on right now i'm excited to know um so and then also for those uh non-youth who are inside of the attendance um please feel free to like if you have questions about um okay well how do we make this a welcoming spot for youth or things like that so this is really a chance for us to have some real conversations um through this panel so post in the q a and since mosh is the first one who shows up on my list um masha um would you you can you can start hi everybody um my name is masha flynn i am um your um youth um sorry i cannot talk apparently um youth outreach and media chair for this year um my pronouns are hershey um and for those that are visually impaired i have red hair and i am a caucasian female with a crown on my head um so um for me i am kinda all over the place when it comes to advocacy um i am a peer specialist at my local um sale which is wyoming independent living so i work for them and i'm also a pure advocate for them um and then i kind of dabble in like the disability world and like the able-bodied world so um i am a part of a organization at my local community college um that um is talking about um inclusion and diversity um i am also um obviously miss welch um the reason for my crown and then i'm also wearing a sash you just can't see it um i am actually the current reigning missile chair wyoming for 2020 as well as 2021 um and that is an organization that is forward thinking on like teaching people of all disabilities about advocacy um and empowerment um and it is an organization that is well it's a state organization for me but it's through a nation through a national organization called miss wheelchair america um which is um which has state competitions all over the country um with women that have their own platforms or forms of advocacy that they want to teach the world and my platform is service dogs not just advanced best friend but they inspire educate and help the next generation i am currently a social work major at my local community college in hopes of starting my own service dog business to mentor youth as well all right then uh we'll go next to noah all right hey everyone i'm noah and i use he him pronouns i am also a member to use steering committee no not a chair i am representing florida for the committee right now i work currently for publix which is a supermarket that we have that goes up to south carolina and we are partnered with a company known as united way which helps us with anything we need whether it be monetary or just a place to stay if we are having troubles with things i am for those who are visually impaired i am caucasian with blue eyes glasses a shirt with the universal classic monsters on it blonde haired with a headset on because it's easier for me to talk this way and i am also representing my cell which is on the space coast near titusville and melbourne and they were the ones who set me up for my first april conference this is my second year round and no i'm not a mute can everyone else hear me yes i can hear you it's chica all right thank you chica because apparently victoria can hear me right now um just make sure this is smells make sure that you are talking near your mic but um yeah please continue alrighty and another thing that you should know about me is i am ver i am in the autistic spectrum with in the subcategory asperger's and i am also a third-degree black belt in my school awesome thank you noah thank you for sharing um then we'll go on to opal okay um can everybody hear me and see me my mic and my camera is working okay good up hi my name is oppo bisa and i use she her pronouns and for those that are visually impaired i am a caucasian female with brown hair and i am currently wearing a red shirt um but um so i have been doing a lot of advocacy work through girl scouts actually uh i am trying to earn my gold award so i have been which is basically pretty much like the eagle scout award but uh for girls and so it's the highest award a girl scout can earn and so for that i am currently working on on i made a slideshow to educate students about the different types of uh disabilities because um a lot of times i see that people with um disabilities get ignored often by able-bodied people um and i think part of that is education like they don't know how to coach so i am currently developing a slide show to help with that that i will hopefully be able to present in schools um all over and if anybody wants me to share that with them so that they can share it within their schools and their organizations i can do that and right now i'm also working on i'm a part of the student voice journalism fellowship so that means i get the right one piece of advocacy journalism to be published and so that's pretty cool that i get to do that um but yeah that's a little bit about what i'm working on right now alrighty and next we'll move to chica hey everyone this is um chica um i live in georgia and i'm wearing a black dress and really excited to be here i use she her pronouns and i work at disability link it's in atlanta georgia and tucker and we serve the 12 counties in atlanta um i currently got this job in april and i got it through advocating with my vocational rehabilitation counselor vr they didn't want me to give me a paid internship where i could get experience as my first job out of my master's program and i did my master in social work internship at disability link and that's how i got connected with the um disability community i'm involved with the national federation of the blind and i try to be as independent as i can and i am excited to be here um do you guys have any questions i live with my mom dad and my cousin akash and my sister manali she's in columbus georgia right now getting her medical she's doing her rotation her medical internship alrighty awesome and thank you so much to our panelists for sharing uh we are going to start uh with um questions so we're just going to uh go around between our panelists i'll be um posing the questions please feel free if you have any um post them in the q a so far um one of the questions that we have for our panelists is where do you feel most included in an ableist society um this is chica i'll say it first um that i see most inclusive is when you're open-minded and you just advocate for yourself if someone like doesn't say their name or describe something then i usually just say hey i'm blind can you please describe it and i feel inclusive around others that are open-minded listening and just showing love and helping me to be challenged and pushing pushing me like my family and the disability community i guess i'll go next for that one um i feel most included when i'm really around my friends since they know that i do have disabilities and they do try to accommodate me but i also feel comfortable around my peers from in college since i don't have to talk to them about my disabilities and i can stuff advocate for myself if needed i guess i'll go next um where do i feel most included um probably so probably either here april or every year um so in montana that's where i'm from uh we have the hope project which is basically like make-a-wish except that uh it's just for kids in my state and every year twice a year we do reunions of all the kids that got wishes um and so i don't have to explain myself off to anybody there um and we all just get to sit around and have fun and be ourselves and that feels like a very inclusive place for me and unfortunately i don't think we get to do it this year because of provide but i'm looking forward to when we can do it again um i guess for me where i would feel and where i do feel kind of most like included and most uh most aware is um pretty much with all the with all the work that i'm doing i mean i'm involved with people that are either have been a part of my journey um throughout my life or um have been an integral part of my journey um or you know with the committees and stuff that i'm on you know you get to know people and people get to know you and get to know your story and i just think that you know the more that you involve yourself as scary as it might be because trust me i've been there if you kind of jump in with both feet and kind of just explain your situation and explain your story people are going to be more i guess inclusive towards you rather than against you because they get to know the real you and get to know your story to where they realize hey just because she's in a wheelchair or just because you know they may have a disability they're still just like me you know so i think that's one of those things where um you kind of have to judge that for yourself but you also have to realize that people are going to have questions um so you know and i've been able to i've just had practice with filming those questions a lot of the time so i'd say pretty much anywhere really all right so we're thank you all of our panels for answering um we're going to our next question which is kind of the flip side of that and i'm going to add a little bit to it um where do you feel most excluded in an ableist society and what do you do in those situations this is chica i guess i'll go first um i would say sometimes i feel discluded around asian people that are either from india or like china and um they're sometimes closed-minded so i just um advocate and tell them that i have a master's degree and then i'm working and i try to be as as friendly as i can but it is kind of hard and something i wanted to add that is that um we all have strengths um because today in the um staff today in the staff meeting they showed a clip of charlotte's web because it was a it was a presentation from the youth coordinator and um in that movie they showed that we all have something to offer even though we have a disability so i just wanted to share that it's a good way to be positive and show that we have something to share i guess i'll go next um i guess i feel most excluded in when people who think that well i'm trying to get the right words to say here but i feel most excluded when people really don't understand what's like being with disabilities since a lot of people i know at my work who are not employees but customers have said directory terms towards autism and i just let slide by because i can't afford to lose my job but i do try to tell people or at least have a group of people with me who know that i am autistic and who are willing to stand up for me even if i can't do to my position in the company oh opal you on mute oh yeah yes sorry i i guess i'll go next um thankfully i do feel included in a lot of situations but there are certain times around like people that are my age that i feel um kind of isolated because they don't quite understand how to interact with me like i think they're scared to like say the wrong thing or that i'll be quote unquote like crazy and i feel very excluded in that situation but thankfully like knowing whom i act old friends are really like it really helps uh that i know who my actual friends are and then the rest of the people i can just ignore pretty well most of the time i can ignore the rest of the people um i would say for me like kind of simpler than what everybody else said i mean when and for those that don't know i actually use a power chair a good majority of the time hence the miss wheelchair wyoming but um honestly because i think sometimes people see a person with a physical disability and just kind of they make their own assumptions without trying to talk to them and so a lot of times at least what i'm experiencing especially with still being in college a lot of times the younger the younger students or whatever um because i'm 25 but you know we have younger students on campus and a lot of times you know they'll look and they'll stare and whatever but um and so sometimes that makes me feel a little bit excluded and a little bit uncomfortable but um for me like i have really bad social anxiety and so a lot of times i kind of let my service dog kind of take the lead on that one because a lot of times um when people see another service like see a dog you know in a vest and stuff they automatically assume that to be a good thing um and so they want to you know they want to come up and pet it and stuff like that which is which is great in my in my situation but not so great in other people's situations for those that have medical alert service dogs but for me i use it as a as an asset and a bridge um for me because i have a hard time talking to people so um you know when people are petting sawyer and like you know talking to me about him and stuff that gives me the bridge and the the ability to talk to them because then i feel more comfortable around them um so i think it kind of goes both ways and that's sometimes what people not understand is that sometimes people with disabilities can be just as weary about talking to them as they are to us and i think that's just one of those things where we have to kind of learn to understand each other and advocate for ourselves so awesome thank you and every time i host a panel i always put some uh write up a list of questions um just in case some people are shy but today we got questions coming in the qa so keep them coming and uh i'm excited to get hear what our panelists have to say our next one is um and i think this kind of goes off of our last question um about ways that you how have you experienced ableism and how do you address it can you repeat that again yes um how have you experienced ableism and how do you address it is that like being disclosed yeah so um just people um excluding you for your disability or um passing judgments on you because of your disability and how just any kind of like really discrimination based on disability and how do you address it to them um well for me this is chica again and um i usually um just um tell people in the beginning like for group projects and like when i was in college um i would just tell them that i am blind but i'm still able to offer like my good writing skills and i'm able to um help out in different ways but i can like bring snacks and stuff like that so i just tell them up front that um please don't um leave me out and please describe things and try to be included as best as i can um this is noah so a lot of times i am not excluded but one of the things i have dealt with is ableism is that people don't expect me to either drive get a car get a home have a job and if i was gonna say something that i learned from a co-worker just because i have a disability doesn't mean that i want you to think less of me if i could keep my job with you insulting me i would punch you in the throat because i don't care what people think about me i want you to know me for me and not me for my disability also mel said you get what k said in chat um i am thank you for yes i am currently working on it um i may bring uh mellie's attention to that one as i am uh hosting the uh questions i'm working on it thank you perfect thank you i guess for me like when it comes down to that term ableism i mean i don't i know that my disability is a part of my identity it's but but the thing is it's just one singular part so i you know it comes down to um kind of when when when you're in those situations it's not that i'm aware of the term ableism because i try not to even be aware of my disability unless i kind of have to especially when it comes to being in the able-bodied world um but when it comes to being at events like this with april and you know being the title holder that i am for this year and next year um i've kind of learned to embrace the disability and use it as an advantage rather than a disadvantage and a lot of times i've i've learned to have patients with certain with people when they do ask questions because i do kind of get you know those i don't want to say i don't want to say dumb but kind of just ignorant kind of questions especially considering my age and certain more personal things which i get and i understand that they are trying to um they're trying to just understand so i mean it kind of comes down to just honestly being patient with um sometimes the questions that people do ask because they are still learning at the same time well i can't guess i'll go oh i have been lucky enough not to really outwardly experience a lot of direct ableism maybe some things that people didn't notice they were doing but um like i get sometimes that people think that i can't do certain things or that i am maybe have um cognitive delays or i'm maybe not as high functioning iq wise as they are um and as far as how i can bat that is i maybe say uh to them like start well not really bragging but telling them about like that i get like straight a's and stuff and then usually uh and that usually um stops them um treating me like i'm not smart awesome thank you everybody for sharing um our next question um i think this one's going to be kind of uh exciting and fun uh for those we have people all over um different the age spectrum for youth here um but what do you want to do or be when you're older that is a fun question and i'll start this time i am actually currently in school for a british history degree and i am going for my doctorate to teach my local community college i guess i'll go unless someone else wants to go um you can go you can go okay um but i really would like to be a author when i get out of school like i would like to go to school for creative writing and i know that that's not a very steady paycheck unless you get like really super huge as a writer but i would like to do mostly like fiction children's teen fiction um that sort of thing uh but until that job that's off the ground being an advocate has been a very good experience for me and it's been very fun for me honestly so maybe something in the field of advocacy at least until my writing career um takes white sort of um i guess i can go really quick um like i had mentioned before um i am currently um in the last year of my associate's degree for social work um while i love working for wyoming independent living and hopefully i will continue that into the future um i would hope to um eventually start my own service dog business um and kind of integrate um able-bodied youth and like college students and like elementary school students into a like mentoring program where basically it's kind of kind of similar to like puppies behind bars but without the prison side of things um so basically i would give like a middle schooler um or a high schooler an eight month old puppy and say okay you're gonna help me train this dog for somebody else with a disability that way they learn like different skills of like you know responsibility selflessness um but then they get to learn about the disability community and just how amazing those people in that community can be because i've noticed um in my town and in my state of wyoming that there really isn't that much for um school school-age kids or even college students to do in this town so i think that would be a very beneficial program for somebody or for a state like ours just because we are such kind of an animal and like agricultural driven state that i think it would be helpful um this is chica hey i would like to get my um licensed master social work um and it's it's kind of hard but um i'm gonna try to take the exam and um i want to become a supervisor and sorry for going back to the last question but i think that um with employment some people including myself like get pushed away or get discriminated so it's important to stay positive and just continue sending out applications because it took me a while until i got this job that i currently have so awesome thank you all for sharing and uh as i guess i have a little bit of a bias in this but masha when your service dog program gets off the ground you gotta let me know because my boy's only three right now but he'll be retiring in five years so i'll be interested um our next question i got you i'm the same way so i get you perfect alrighty so our next question that we have uh what is one thing you would change about the world if you could just snap your fingers and it was changed i guess i'll go and how someone else would go you can go uh um i would probably i would just like snap my fingers and probably get rid of the idea that um disabled people are less than other people and that we can't do stuff uh to the same level that able buddy people can um and then also i would probably get rid of it i wish that would just go away i'll go next um mine is two different things but if i had to condense them down it would be just prejudice i would get rid of the prejudice that everyone has whether they be against a certain religions races ethnicities sexual orientations or disabilities i would get rid of it that's awesome um i would say um to make bollywood movies um audio described maybe in the future and also just um make more transportation accessible because um it's a little bit far away from where i live in gwinnett and i think that is a barrier for people to go and hang out with friends and also i agree i really hope covet can go away soon too okay sorry i was answering a question from one of our um participants um i think for me i mean honestly i really honestly wish the covet would go away because then i could actually go back to my normal routine and for those that don't know i'm one of those people that i can adapt to change but i don't like change so this whole pandemic has kind of gotten me kind of thrown all over the place mentally so it's not it's not an easy thing to deal with when you're having to be on zoom for six to eight hours a day it's not um you know it's not normal so especially for me being in social work you know you're used to being around people physically and being able to talk to them and stuff so it's i would say that would be one of those things is just let's get over this pandemic already it's time i completely relate and i think many of us do too especially i think we'd all love to be in person right now um for this conference um our next question um we have if you could tell one thing to someone that does not really understand the disability community or know much about it what would you want to tell them um i guess i'll go first this time since i've gone last the last couple times but um really um because i have friends that are able bodied i have a friend my best friend works for me and she and i are constantly having conversations that just like how do you handle those type of situations or how do you handle this why do you handle that and i really think um that it comes down to just really that we are normal people um just because we are having to do things a little bit differently and just because it's taking us a little bit more time to do things um does not mean that we're normal human beings we make mistakes we you know we have emotions we have feelings um you know and so i think it's just one of those things where he just as much as i hate to say this we have to keep educating um you know and we keep we have to keep having those conversations with people um so that they get to know us as people without the disability or without the equipment that we have um you know and i'm sure that mel's can relate to this you know i completely adore my service dog i think he's the greatest thing that you know i've ever had in my life however there are days where he and i are not as cohesive as we want to be um you know there are days where he's going to have a bad day and i'm going to have a bad day and it's just not going to work um however because sometimes it's like having a three-year-old on a leash a three-year-old human however you know you kind of just have to roll with the punches and realize that that piece of medical equipment or that piece of something is there to help that person mitigate their disability which means helping them to be more a part of society um physically rather than mentally because mentally we're all there it's just physically our bodies or our minds just don't always want to work with us on a given day opal i see your hand i was just um stretching the ugliness i guess um i really think that the i like i said i think that they need to learn that we're just people too the same as they are how they can have jobs and have lives and have friends and um and i think the sooner they learn that the less our disabilities are going to affect us like like no one will really notice it anymore once they all learn that we're just normal people i know all right go ahead opal uh no you can no no i was pretty much done all right so this is noah and one of the things that i would tell is the fact that you need to look at it from not just your own perspective but the perspective of everyone else who is in this community as well because i have people who i am very close friends with their family who are disabled as well one their children has brittle bone syndrome which is not a very good thing for him since he is constantly having to get a lot more medical things done but i also know that it isn't being his life he's also he doesn't need help with things like what some people who would think that he would have to get but also it's you learning everything in life's a learning experience and you need to learn from every side of the coin or you to be a more well-rounded person within any community and that's the same with ours yeah i agree with everyone i think it's important to be open-minded and just tell others that we're able to live an independent life we just use different accommodations like for braille or audio and that we just do things differently but we still have a job and can live on our own and do the same things as other people can awesome thank you so much for sharing we have about eight minutes left and we've got two questions um so we're going to start with the first one and this came up a little bit earlier but it's uh how do you keep your temper in check when someone says something negative about your disability to you or someone you know oh man um i usually just stay calm um maybe like a first i won't say anything um just so it doesn't come out like in a rude way but i'll step back and um if i have the person's like contact information then um i'll email them later on or text them and say hey next time can you um not do that it's kind of like a hard situation but you want to be rude at first but it's important to step back so i'll go next i think i cover this a little bit in the exclusion question that we did earlier but my way of dealing with that is having a good support system on my side and taking deep breaths since i do a lot of meditation at home and it's taught me to stay calm and also i just let lie by me because it's usually happens when i'm at work so i had to keep on flow or else we could get way too behind and i could risk fire fire um i can go next um i kind of already kind of addressed this question with this particular attendee but i think it's really a learned skill like because i've just learned over the years that you know you have to learn to two different sides to every story and you know because you never know what that person's going through on a daily basis or what their story is because they might just be lashing out because they're having a hard time in their personal life or something like that um i know that with my with my friend that i have because she's able-bodied but she's never been around a person with a disability before and so there will be times where we're out in public and all of a sudden people will stare and she'll be like why are people staring like how do you handle all this like because of the fact that i'm in a chair and then i have a service dog that's not a normal breed of service dog and so i think that when it comes to those type of things you really kind of have to let it roll off your back or if you know if people do stare you smile and you just move on with your day you know um and then when you are given that opportunity to educate you educate um i was one of those people when i was younger i always got so irritated when people would um not be patient with me or not um understand where i was coming from but now i've kind of just learned to be patient with them because how am i gonna teach them if they can't be patient or if i can't be patient so so i um when people do something that's maybe insensitive um depending on the degree of how insensitive it is sometimes i like rest on it because so that nothing like rude comes out of my mouth because i i don't like to be rude i like to be seen as a nice person um um but then if it's just something small just some small thing that they messed up on that's maybe slightly insensitive then i take that opportunity to educate them that maybe okay that's not an appropriate thing to say but um i didn't let it get under my skin really all that off and i tried to just use education and and in the future they'll know that that's not an appropriate thing to say um and then stuff this is a little bit off topic but sometimes i find that people will be too careful about what the they say um like people have um trouble saying they're that um like if they say that i'm on a roll they think that's um wrong um to say that i'm on a roll or like accidentally say that um oh meet me at the top of the stairs or something um but i have to tell them that you didn't mean to say that and not be um bothered by it alrighty and we have one more question we got about two minutes so i might have to speed around it and just this is like could usually is a session all on its own at april um but we didn't have this one this year uh just because it's more of an in person but um how do you feel about your disability and dating relationships intimacy that's a rough one and you don't gotta get too personal if you don't want to um i guess i can kind of go um it i will say it is a very complex question because everybody has their own um situation um sorry that is kind of a really tough question because it's kind of hard to like explain it without getting too personal um i think for me it's it's kind of it just comes down to um what i want to see in a partner and what i think would um benefit me kind of benefit me in the long run and what's going to balance what's really going to balance out a person but then also just having someone that's going to be understanding to the fact that when you have a disability time management sometimes has to go out the window and sometimes you're on disability time and so sometimes there's going to be crap that happens that you're not going to that they're not going to expect and so it's going to be kind of like you know there are going to maybe be times where they're going to have to become a potential caregiver and as that person with a disability gets older and can't really um do stuff for themselves maybe as much as they used to when they were younger um like i said it's kind of a complex question but i guess that's how i see it and it's kind of where you once again you'll go back to education you know and those type of things all right so i hate to jump in but we are at the end of our hour um in a bit the uh discord chat will be updated so if anybody wants to continue this conversation here or have uh more conversations about this um we can move it there and yeah but thank you so much to our panelists uh this has been a great opportunity um i know i learned a bunch about everybody and different ways to uh like just do advocacy so thank you so much um and i guess our last thing is going to be our closing ceremony so i will uh see you all there if um my panelists can stay on um just for a moment but um everybody else feel free to take a break and we'll be getting back to um um i'll see you all at the uh closing ceremonies thank you all for coming bye anybody wants that i cho just um send me your emails like or something and then and then we'll uh i'll get that to you guys okay run to the ceremony i gotta go thanks mel this is the captioner i'm logging off okay awesome thank you all right so i'm just uh pulling up the conference thing real quick um you want me to stop recording yes please it's nothing